tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post705467168518573569..comments2023-10-08T05:00:23.559-04:00Comments on Clarissa's Blog: Zygmunt Bauman's Liquid Modernity: A Review, Part IIClarissahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-7315590280490507212011-04-25T12:55:48.184-04:002011-04-25T12:55:48.184-04:00This is s very good question. Bauman's central...This is s very good question. Bauman's central idea that he reiterates from one work to another is that progress doesn't exist and the idea of progress is something that no human being can reasonably defend. I'm sure that African-Americans and Jews, to name just two groups of people, would beg to disagree. Not being a slave and not having to live in a pale of settlement must surely feel like progress for these people. I wrote about it in my earlier review of Bauman's Does Ethics Have a Chance in the World of Consumers and didn't want to repeat myself.Clarissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-21958339828997505752011-04-25T12:47:05.377-04:002011-04-25T12:47:05.377-04:00These were all illustrations intended to show that...These were all illustrations intended to show that Bauman doesn't write with women in mind. Your post however says at the beginning, " always ends up making statements that are only true for a certain part of humanity, namely, white heterosexual males." How about some examples to show that he writes only about white people?cringe-allhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14899701314294898537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-2307480088786251242011-04-25T10:26:19.212-04:002011-04-25T10:26:19.212-04:00Hmmm. My first wife dropped out of grad school bec...Hmmm. My first wife dropped out of grad school because she did not like the environment where her advisor forbade her to take any time off for vacations to see her family, etc. She worked the rest of the time I was in grad school. I supported her through a few years of grad school after I got my Ph. D. and a tenure track job. She also dropped out of that program. She asked me for a divorce a few years later. I continued to pay her some alimony for three years after our divorce, as well as child support while our daughter was living with her.Pagan Topologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01611788563582362688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-61450546171456316882011-04-25T08:14:05.131-04:002011-04-25T08:14:05.131-04:00profacero: No, not really. At least not at this po...profacero: No, not really. At least not at this point. The reviews are my way of taking notes so that I can always refresh my reading of a book later on. My memory is horrible.<br /><br />PT: I'm sure there were and are individual stories that counteracted the general narrative. However, sacrifice as female duty has been preached to women for centuries. Even today, I have seen many women abandon grad school or their profession altogether because they "had to" follow the boyfriend/fiance/husband even if his career was far less prestigious and important. I do not know a single case where a man would do that for a woman. I'm sure they exist, but the majority of sacrifices (and really stupid ones) still are female. Often, they later get dumped and now work bagging groceries at the checkout line. Which does not prevent yet another generation of hopeful female fools from dropping their entire lives in order to follow some guy around.Clarissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-20926921079644943792011-04-25T07:27:15.767-04:002011-04-25T07:27:15.767-04:00I don't think that women are the only people w...I don't think that women are the only people who sacrifice in marriages. Looking at my parents, I think both of them gave up a lot so they could stay together. I don't think either of them realized how much the other gave up. My dad built a much bigger house than he would have liked because mother wanted it. He would have much preferred to have spent the money on cars and more travelling. My mother gave up a grand piano she had inherited because my dad thought it was too difficult to move around when he waxed the floors. These are just the first examples that come to mind.Pagan Topologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01611788563582362688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-88275158388512078642011-04-25T03:17:56.113-04:002011-04-25T03:17:56.113-04:00So, you're going to use this discussion of Bau...So, you're going to use this discussion of Bauman (both parts) for something academic, right? I think you should (although perhaps someone has - I read the book last summer and then got distracted, didn't check on debates about it or look nearly enough into contexts, haven't read Badiou or enough of Deleuze or Zizek, blah blah).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com