tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post7319354114221991556..comments2023-10-08T05:00:23.559-04:00Comments on Clarissa's Blog: Yet Another Instance of Hatred Towards Women by Ultra-Ortodox JewsClarissahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-55243418322998486272011-05-10T17:39:43.261-04:002011-05-10T17:39:43.261-04:00Where's the "like" button?? Well st...Where's the "like" button?? Well stated Clarissa. Soooo frustrating that they get away with this under the guise of religious & constitutional freedoms!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-50695499970024987662011-05-10T14:46:55.479-04:002011-05-10T14:46:55.479-04:00In secular schools students don't pray or are ...In secular schools students don't pray or are told "God exists". We studied scripture as a book of stories written by different people at different times.<br /><br /> And I've never heard of attempts to prohibit biology teachers from teaching evolution in Israel or force them teach Creationism, as in US.elnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-50880453040154357452011-05-10T13:54:35.751-04:002011-05-10T13:54:35.751-04:00So you are saying that the only choice is between ...So you are saying that the only choice is between different shades of barbarity? That isn't very heartening.<br /><br />" but except family laws Israel in practice doesn't seem any more religious than US"<br /><br />-Last I heard, nobody taught scripture in the US schools. Thank God.Clarissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-34800903552758612172011-05-10T13:02:25.169-04:002011-05-10T13:02:25.169-04:00There is a huge difference. F.e. on the forum I wa...There is a huge difference. F.e. on the forum I was surprised to discover secular women claiming they would continue with their lives, give birth to children, mamzers or no, and not care what rabbinate says. In Gaza they would've been killed because of "family honor". Muslim women can't divorce either without husband's permission.<br /><br />Haredim were given rule in some fields. In "Origins" there is a short, good explanation:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo_(Israel)<br /><br />2 last points do create problems, but except family laws Israel in practice doesn't seem any more religious than US. It isn't like Iran or Gaza, where religion rules in every aspect of one's life and going against it is deadly dangerous.elnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-57657412061065746122011-05-10T10:53:27.687-04:002011-05-10T10:53:27.687-04:00el: my friend, aren't you the person who told ...el: my friend, aren't you the person who told us all a horrible story about how women were treated like things in relation to divorce? About mamzers and stuff? Who cares about barbers when women can't even get divorced when they wish?Clarissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-46151908314627714322011-05-10T08:48:46.179-04:002011-05-10T08:48:46.179-04:00How did this paper operate when Golda Meier was Is...How did this paper operate when Golda Meier was Isreali Prime Minister?KThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794676685036206776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-6106316935996363162011-05-10T04:55:39.295-04:002011-05-10T04:55:39.295-04:00Only, unlike Gaza, Israel isn't under Haredi r...Only, unlike Gaza, Israel isn't under Haredi rule. They can leave Haredi communities and live differently. F.e. women may go to male barber, unlike being ruled by religious people:<br /><i>Male hair stylists in Gaza are now under threat. A new order from Hamas, which rules the Gaza Strip, says any man who cuts a woman's hair will face legal consequences...<br />Barakat has owned his salon in Gaza for 19 years. He says he is one of only five men who cut hair in Gaza.<br />Fox News has learned that a bomb was even placed outside his salon recently by extremists.</i><br />http://shawarmamayor.blogspot.com/2010/03/sharia-paradise-in-gaza-finds-new.html<br />And this isn't Fox News propaganda. You can check other sources. I first read it in Hebrew.<br /><br /><i>Israel's attitude to women, however, is just as hateful and demeaning</i><br />Is simply untrue. Israel =/= Haredis or their rule. <br /><br />Btw, today is Israel's 63-rd Independence Day.elnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-15634765098270938702011-05-09T23:35:08.895-04:002011-05-09T23:35:08.895-04:00Thank you for the link, friend! It's totally g...Thank you for the link, friend! It's totally going into a separate post.Clarissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-21453136492584350582011-05-09T22:56:18.636-04:002011-05-09T22:56:18.636-04:00OT hey check out how many USSR regiments there wer...OT hey check out how many USSR regiments there were in Europe compared to other allies on 10 May 1945, it is quite interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Allied_army_positions_on_10_May_1945.png ... I'd forgotten that Romania was a German ally ... I'd have liked to experience the news of WWII in real time although not the war itself. My father would listen to Hitler speeches on short wave radio and also Nazi rallies in the northern US, before we decided to go in on the other side, of course. Noam Chomsky says there were pro Nazi events in his very own neighborhood. Dad was living in Mex DF when Stalingrad fell and he says the parade was the largest thing he has ever seen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-58854398630175930482011-05-09T19:43:37.179-04:002011-05-09T19:43:37.179-04:00This reminds me of how bemused I was when I discov...This reminds me of how bemused I was when I discovered the invention of the "kosher" cell phone, with the camera and texting options removed to "preserve women's virtue". A couple hundred bucks extra for a phone with no features besides calling, receive calls, voicemail, and a calculator and a clock? Status symbol nonsense. <br />Oh, and believe it or not, a lot of people on other blogs are mistaking that newspaper for a Muslim newspaper. Even with the word "Hasidic" included to describe the paper. <br />People are idiots.Leah Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798094383285526940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-16750116529568169792011-05-09T17:06:18.895-04:002011-05-09T17:06:18.895-04:00The truth is that I am not shocked because I grew ...The truth is that I am not shocked because I grew up knowing about the ultra-Orthodox traditions, although I am not ultra-Orthodox. If you look at the Brooklyn based Jewish newspaper The Yated Neeman,you would see that there is not a single woman featured in that "newspaper". This is taking the idea of modesty to the extreme, basically saying that a woman showing her face is wrong. According to them women should be barefoot and pregnant. The point is that the reason why I am not outraged by this is, because I am so familiar with this practice that I am not shocked. This is one reason why I am skeptical of religion<br />.The Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05745841671771548382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-10929246809694022132011-05-09T16:51:13.406-04:002011-05-09T16:51:13.406-04:00Yes, I read that the White House releases all phot...Yes, I read that the White House releases all photos with a statement that prohibits any alteration of the photos for any reason. <br /><br />The White House isn't likely to do anything about it, though, because freedom of religion is paramount.Clarissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-59439965257895744082011-05-09T16:49:54.217-04:002011-05-09T16:49:54.217-04:00And according to The Daily Kos (check their Midday...And according to The Daily Kos (check their Midday Open Thread), what they did is illegalSpanish profhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248530328973177920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-53595242525977073982011-05-09T16:49:51.674-04:002011-05-09T16:49:51.674-04:00We can take this argument far enough to the point ...We can take this argument far enough to the point where every single person on the planet will be an oppressor and shouldn't struggle for freedom.Clarissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-63640571735580836032011-05-09T16:48:07.879-04:002011-05-09T16:48:07.879-04:00With the JMP The Maoist's standard, Palestine ...With the JMP The Maoist's standard, Palestine is an oppressor nation, an Palestine should not separate to Isreal, like Quebec! ;)David Gendronhttp://anarchopragmatisme.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-59868484883778785242011-05-09T16:30:21.650-04:002011-05-09T16:30:21.650-04:00This is even more shocking.This is even more shocking.Clarissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-46671044672856462562011-05-09T16:29:00.927-04:002011-05-09T16:29:00.927-04:00That newspaper is based in New York, I believe.That newspaper is based in New York, I believe.Vertigohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13742339386797940444noreply@blogger.com