tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post7453413351324218950..comments2023-10-08T05:00:23.559-04:00Comments on Clarissa's Blog: Ross Douthat's Fit of Virulent Chauvinism: Is It Time for the New York Times to Close?Clarissahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-27933117970387627942009-05-31T17:26:34.419-04:002009-05-31T17:26:34.419-04:00Nobody takes this guy seriously anyway.Nobody takes this guy seriously anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-83916331977982926232009-05-27T16:38:15.497-04:002009-05-27T16:38:15.497-04:00Here is a link to an analysis of the actual graph ...Here is a link to an analysis of the actual graph that formed as basis of Douthat's piece:<br /><br />http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1456<br /><br />It's obvious from this that his statements are based on nothing other than his own wishful thinking.Clarissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-34843128247681765832009-05-27T16:27:06.159-04:002009-05-27T16:27:06.159-04:00Peter N.: happiness is a subjective concept. The w...Peter N.: happiness is a subjective concept. The way people define it is extremely dependent on the specific historic and cultural circumstances. In 1960ies women were expected to be happy and chirpy. Today, women arre expected to whine about being overburdened and overworked. In these kinds of surveys, people just answer what they are expected to, that's why I say that such studies are worthless.<br /><br />As to the NY Times, it puzzles me why people say it's a liberal newspaper. Am I missing something? Recently I quoted another article they published on higher education reform. It was painfully conservative as well. Where is the progressive side of the NYTimes?Clarissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-92101405137417543102009-05-27T16:22:55.851-04:002009-05-27T16:22:55.851-04:00V.: in your comment your summarized with a great p...V.: in your comment your summarized with a great precision the main conclusions of my doctoral dissertation. And you haven't even read it. I agree with every single word you write here.Clarissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11027134365260069910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-77779310534499776322009-05-27T00:05:19.801-04:002009-05-27T00:05:19.801-04:00I take a couple of issues with the points you make...I take a couple of issues with the points you make in this posting.<br /><br />First, the article is an Op-Ed, from a wholly outside contributor not representing what the paper said or represented as news in any way. I understand that they are hosting it, but they are just giving space to an individual to show his opinion. Even if you disagree with it, that does not make something worthless. To challenge a belief is to enrich both sides. Additionally, someone is entitled to hold chauvinistic, paternalistic beliefs. You may not like them, and you may believe the exact opposite position, but there is nothing to prove that a position is just incorrect.<br /><br />Second, you talk about the idea of asking people whether they are happy. What other measure can there be? Women from the 60's are not the same as those today; whether they are judging the same criteria or not, all people can do is judge their own situation. If you want to say that people are just wrong in saying they are happy or not, you are denying them agency by disregarding their statements. <br /><br />Anyway, this guy Douthat is basically the exact opposite of everything for which the New York Times stands. This Op-Ed should not serve as a call for the death of print journalism or the New York Times; rather, it should be the death knell of the Conservative movement, long overdue.Peter Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13135890516357574672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3164556861454970487.post-2867830099764030782009-05-26T19:09:10.842-04:002009-05-26T19:09:10.842-04:00How about the following hypotheses:
Majority of hu...How about the following hypotheses:<br />Majority of human beings (regardless of gender) actually dread personal responsibility and resent the fact that with more freedom comes more responsibility. Old-fashioned "kinder-ku"che-kirche" may be very unenlightened, but the structure and freedom FROM choice this model provides are unconsciously valuable to many people, again, regardless of gender. <br />All "objective measures of progress of women" actually boil down to increasing freedoms. But with increasing freedoms comes what is perceived as increased uncertainty, which in turn is perceived as a "bad thing". That's how one can get reduced "subjective happiness" while the "objective one" is increasing...<br />Apparently, some men are suffering from the lack of pattern and structure as well - and they see the solution in returning to the past rather than in consciously embracing increased personal responsibility for everybody.<br />By the way, what is so special about guy's appearance (aside from the fact that it is written "Susan Etheridge" under the picture :) )? <br />V.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com